this just in, at tonight's debate between ron desantis and charlie crist, desantis refused to say whether he would serve a full term if re-elected. he said, i know that charlie is interested in talking about 2024 and joe biden, but i just want to make things very, very clear, the only worn out old donkey i'm looking to put out to pasture is char lis kris. this comes as multiple reports say ron desantis is a contender for the 2024 presidential race. "cnn tonight" with jake tapper "cnn tonight" with jake tapper starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i was watching the debate. tough words between the two of them after desantis said the beat up old donkey, kris said

desantis is a bully. no love lost between those two. i think not just for the audience. i think they actual ri loathe each other. >> charlie crist is touch an interesting political history on both sides of the political divide. >> desantis made a reference to what krist thought about something six parties ago, referencing how he had been a republican and independent, now he's a democrat. tough race. tough race. welcome to "cnn tonight." i'm jake tapper. tonight, an uncharacteristic warning from one of the most respected non-partisan journalists in the world. breaking from 50 years of journalistic tradition to come here and warn you about the threat he says donald trump poses still to the united states, threats to both democracy and to american national security. bob woodward became a household

name back in the '70s of course when, with his partner at the washington, carl bernstein, woodward broke the watergate scandal wide open, paving the way to impeachment proceedings, a best selling book, and a film. >> woodward, bern teen, you're both on the story so don't [ bleep ] it up. >> since then, woodward has become an authority on the presidency, publishing more than a dozen looks with unvarnished looks at republicans and democrats in the white house. his access is unmatched. there's an old saying in journalism, if your mother says she loves you, get a second source. he listens to presidents, writes down what he tells them, and he checks when they say with those in the room where it happened. now woodward is releasing audio, audio from the more than eight hours of discussions he had with candidate and president donald

trump. while some of the content has been reported on before, woodward wants you, the american people, to hear from donald trump directly to see if you come to the same conclusions that he has, that, quote, the record now shows that trump has led and continues to lead a seditious conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election, which in effect, is an effort to destroy democracy, unquote. those are shocking words from bob woodward. an effort to destroy democracy? seditious conspiracy? why is woodward saying this now? we will ask him here live in a moment. but first, we need to acknowledge it's not as though trump stopped saying outrageous, dangerous things. he simply lost access to his more main stream unfiltered megaphones, whether twitter or facebook or a live feed from the white house lawn. few media outlets continue to cover his every speech or every untethered post on his

ironically named truth social twitter knockoff. but in some ways, trump's rhetoric, for those of us who have been following it, it has, dare i say, gotten worse. case and point, what donald trump said at a rally over the weekend in texas about how he would handle the journalists and the publisher of politico who broke the story of the supreme court draft opinion overturning roe v. wade. this is how donald trump said he would force those journalists to give him the name of their source. >> say, who is the leaker? national security. and they say, we're not going to tell you. they say, that's okay. you're going to jail. and when this person realizes that he is going to be the bride of another prisoner very shortly, he will say, i'd very much like to tell you exactly who that leaker -- it was bill

jones. i swear he's the leaker, and we got him. >> we got him. the rally crowd laughing along there at donald trump talking about threatening a reporter with prisonery. let's you think this is classic trump spouting off trying to make the crowd laugh. donny from queens saying folks who know trump well afraid. here's alissa yssa farah griffio worries if trump manages to become president again, his sequel will be all about retribution and changing america forever. >> you think he will try to impose some form of autocracy. >> i think he absolutely would. there are things he wanted to do when he was in power the first time that were well beyond the scope of what the u.s. president should be able to do, whether it's weaponizing the justice department against political opponents, whether it's, you know, going after the free press, he would certainly be open to using the military for

political reasons as well. >> so, keep that in mind from former trump insiders, that concern, when we listen to the trump interviews with bob woodward. what did trump say that caused a seasoned, straight down the middle journalist to break the glass in case of emergency? let's start with the coronavirus pandemic, which has now killed more than 1 million people in the united states. the tapes seem to reveal a president who was caught completely underprepared and did very little in those first crucial months to course correct even though two of trump's top national security advisers told woodward directly that they gave donald trump a clear and direct warning on january 28, 2020. >> so, i then jumped in and i think the phrase i used was this

will be the biggest national security threat you'll face in your presidency. >> you were literally saying to the president this will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency? >> yes, yes, yes. >> a warning, january 28, 2020. here's how trump responded in may, when woodward learned about that warning and asked trump about it. >> your new national security adviser, o'brien -- >> right. >> -- said january 28, mr. president, this virus is going to be the biggest national security threat to your presidency. do you remember that? >> no, no. no, i don't. no, i don't. i'm sure he said it. you know, i'm sure he said it. nice guy. >> as i said, woodward had not learned about the january 28th warning until may. may. more than 70,000 americans had already died from the virus. two months after that in july, trump gave woodward a ring, and

he said he finally had a plan to deal with the pandemic. but trump wanted to wait to release it until a time when it would better help him win re-election. >> the plan over the next four weeks -- bob, i've got 106 days. that's a long time. you know, if i put out a plan now, people won't even remember it in 100 -- i won the last election -- >> no, no. it's not just put out the plan. it's execute it. >> i am executing -- you'll see it starting -- >> but it was not just trump's handling of the pandemic that led woodward to declare him an unparalleled danger. back in december 2019, trump shared letters with woodward that had been sent by north korean dictator kim jong-un. >> he wrote me beautiful letters. and they're great letters. we fell in love. >> we fell in love. kim jong-un is of course a

murderous tyrant whose citizens are essentially prisoners in their own country. trump did not actually seem to care much about that, though. to woodward, trump only cared about dictators in term of their relationships with him. >> it's funny, the relationship s i have, the meaner they are, the better i get along with. you'll explain that to me someday. the easier ones are the ones i don't get along with as much. >> that's another trait that alarmed woodward along with other national security experts. trump had a failure to understand the role the president of the united states plays on the global stage. this is what trump was saying about putin in 2019. >> i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> both relation pships, trump and putin and trump and kim jong-un continued to blossom throughout his presidency. with woodward in december 2019.

>> the word, chemistry, you meet somebody, and you have a good chemistry. you meet a woman. in one second, you know whether or not it's all going to happen. >> you meet a woman. in one second, you know whether or not it's going to happen. that is especially true, by the way, per the "access hollywood" tapes and a myriad of sexual assault accusations. we're talking about the leader of the free world making foreign policies based on his perceptions of chemistry. now, for woodward, hearing is believing. that's why he's here tonight. so, you cannot just read about but listen to donald trump, who for instance seemed to have little interest in helping battle the biggest pandemic the world has seen since 1918. perhaps the most telling part of the trump tapes, however, is what trump would not say. woodward says that in all 20 interviews, there's only one time donald trump essentially said, no comment. in summer 2020, around the time that the january 6 committee says, trump and his minions were

beginning the plan to hold on to power illegally and violently and at all costs. >> everyone says trump is going to stay in the white house if it's contested. >> well, i'm not -- i don't want to even comment on that. >> sure. >> i don't want to comment on that at this time. hey, bob, i've got a lot of people. i'll talk to you later on tonight. >> we know now why trump wouldn't answer that one question, his plans to stay in power, to try to throw out millions of american votes, to try and subvert american democracy, ending in the deadly and bloody insurrection. that is just one of the data points, leading bob woodward to play the tapes for you tonight, to break with his normally detached reporting and to sound the alarm. when we come back, woodward will join us live. and he's brought new audio along with him from the trump tapes, ones that we will unpack live right here next.

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we're getting new insight into former president trump's thinking and attitude during his years in the white house, breaking from 50 years of tradition, celebrated journalist bob woodward is releasing recordings from his 20 different interviews with trump and issuing a warning about his subject. woodward saying one of the most striking themes is the former president's inability to reflect and take action on the coronavirus crisis that was enveloping the country. listen to one of woodward's exchanges with trump in the summer of 2020. >> was there a moment in all of this last two months where you said to yourself, ah, this is the leadership test of a lifetime? >> no. >> joining us now, journalist and author of the trump tapes, bob woodward. you're doing something you've

never done before, releasing your tapes of the interviews with trump. you said hearing the audio is more telling than reading the words on paper. that no in the last exchange, the former president is almost yelling no at you like he's angry. >> well, and he's dismissing any responsibility he has. and that no is like a thunder clap. i'm walking away from this. i mean, if there was ever the leadership test of a lifetime for the president, it was this pandemic. it was a health and political crisis like we've not seen in this country. and he walked away from it. and as you listen to these tapes, particularly on the virus but on any subject, he kind of goes from denial to concealment

to the crime. i call it a crime. not telling the people that he had been warned by his national security advisers in the most vivid way, which is outlined in these tapes, the interviews with them where they are telling him -- i've done -- i've known 16 national security advisers going back to kissinger. and never once heard one come and tell the president, this will be the biggest national security threat to your presidency. and it wasn't about china, russia, or iran. it was about a domestic health crisis that he was covering up. >> yeah. and that he spent the next few weeks and months poo-pooing publicly. this striking chain of events in your tapes we played earlier --

we played the sound of national security robert o'brien and matthew pottinger talking about how they warned trump january 28th the coronavirus would be the biggest threat in his presidency. two months after he was born, he had a conversation with barron, barron, young boy, scared of the pandemic. here's conversations you had with trump about his conversations with barron in march. >> i wanted to capture the moment when your son, barron, asked you about this. >> well, he's just turning 14, so he was 13 in the white house upstairs in his bedroom. he said, dad, what's going on? i said, it came out of china, barron, plain and simple. and it should have been stopped. and to be honest with you, barron, they should have let it be known it was a problem two months earlier. we have 141 countries have it

now. and i said, the world wouldn't have a problem. we could have stopped it easily. >> obviously the chinese government, there is a lot of blame to put and assign to the chinese government. but here he is telling barron he wishes he knew about the threat to coronavirus two months earlier. but trump had been told about it literally two months earlier in january. >> stunning, absolutely -- i mean, our parents know about that moment when you do to the bedside of a child and there is that human interaction that should be built on truth. but trump is saying, oh, china. they could have stopped this two months ago. trump could have stopped it two months ago. when i'm doing this interview with trump on march 19th, i had no idea -- it took me about six weeks to find out about the

warning, and i found out from o'brien and pottinger on may 1st. and when i heard that from them, i was as stunned as i've ever been as a reporter because i go back and listen to this. and my god, trump is conning not just me but his son. and he is laying out, oh, this could have been fixed. the chinese could have done something about it. donald trump could have done something about it by being honest and warning the public that he, as president, has a constitutional and moral responsibility to do. >> and then there's this moment in april, april 5, 2020. trump asks you what actions he should be taking to combat covid. take a listen. >> go ahead, did you write them

down or not? >> yes, i wrote them all down. >> read them out. go ahead. read them. >> okay. first is testing. >> and you go through your list of what you suggest. this is more than two months since the stark warning about the pandemic from national security adviser o'brien. the president is turning to you on what actions he should be taking. that must have had you worried about the state of the country, the state of the response. >> but he's not turning to me, frankly. i called him up, and between the period he closed the country down because of the virus and this april 5th conversation, i talked to dr. fauci, dr. redfield, the other experts on this. and they said their meeting with trump, he will not listen. he's got all these virus deniers in the room. and i said, what won't he listen about? so, they lay out a series of

coordinations and setting up airline rules and defining simple things like what is an essential worker. so, i realize i've got this information. they're telling me trump will not listen. i realize i can talk to trump. so, i spend about 15 minutes going through these. and the then at the end, he said, well, did you write them down. and i went through them again thinking, he's going to do something. you know what he did? absolutely zero. it was so sickening to see he was not doing these things and he'd lost the avenue of communication with the experts. i asked them at one point, i said, have you ever sat down with dr. fauci? he's the expert. and trump says, oh, no, this is

a busy white house. busy white house. didn't have time to sit down -- i mean, it's like the president of the united states not talking to his chairman of the joint chiefs or the commander. i mean, it's almost -- i mean, it really should be unbelievable. the problem is it's exactly what happened out of trump's mouth. >> yeah. all too believable. bob woodward, stick around. we've got a lot more to talk about. coming up even more tapes to back up why bob says donald trump poses a serious threat to democracy. what trump told him about our nuclear arsenal. and what worried about him donald trump's understanding or lack thereof of foreign policy. that's next. stay with us. contestants ready? go! only pay foror what you need. jingle: libertrty. liberty. liberty. liberty.

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bob woodward has written for decades about presidents and for years about donald trump's cavalier attitude toward national security, from discussing on the golf course a drone strike on an iranian general to the idea of pulling out of a trade deal with south korea. but there's something about hearing donald trump openly discussing nuclear weapons systems, like this. >> i have built a weapon system like nobody's had in this country. we've had stuff that you have

never seen or heard about before. we have stuff that putin and xi have never heard about before. >> you looked into it when trump told you that. one of your sources told you he was surprised trump had disclosed the existence of this weapons system to you. >> yeah, i finally heard from somebody what it was, and it's true. xi and putin would not know about it. but why is trump bragging about it? again, it's just this -- what's the job of the president? the job of the president is to figure out -- i once said to trump because he was kind of asking, what do you think the president's job is? and i said, it is to ascertain the next stage of good for a majority of people in the country, not one party or a bunch of interest groups, and then develop a comprehensive plan and execute it. and he said, oh, that's good.

that's great. never did he do this. and you know, you can tell in the tone of my voice and overpersistence of what i'm saying, this is dangerous. something needs to be addressed in the most serious way. >> yeah. and his disclosing that to you certainly puts a new light on him having all those classified documents in mar-a-lago for years. i also want to play this exchange you had, this odd exchange you had with donald trump about kim jong-un. let's roll that tape. >> the cia says about kim jong-un that he's cunning, crafty, but ultimately stupid. >> i disagreechlt he's cunning. he's crafty. but he's very smart. >> why does the cia say that? >> because they don't know, okay? because they don't know.

they have no idea. o i'm the only one who knows. i'm the only one he deals with. he won't deal with anybody else. the word chemistry. you meet somebody, you have good chemistry. you meet a woman, in one second you know whether or not it's all going to happen. >> and is this all driving kim to the negotiating table? >> no, no. it was designed for whatever reason. ser it was designed instinctively. i'm trying to listen with an open mind. you know, maybe he understands something the cia doesn't. certainly they get things wrong all the time, but he doesn't provide any information. and then you're trying to understand. so, you're saying this about kim jong-un and you have this chemistry and the purpose is what? and he says it was designed for whatever reason. it was designed, who knows, instinctively. let's talk instinct. there's no substance there at all. >> and here he's saying his

decision is instinct. and i kind of don't -- i mean, what a casual way, as i point out in one of my 200 commentaries in the audio book, this traumatized his national security team. kim jong-un, the thuggish leader of north korea had nuclear weapons. he had missiles that he got from -- missile launchers from china. and then he concealed them and he hid them in a way that the cia was, my god, this guy, if we ever have to have a war or some sort of nuclear exchange with him, he's really advanced. and the defense secretary, mattis, used to sleep in his gym clothes because he knew if a missile was coming to the united states he would be called to an emergency conference.

and i asked trump about this. trump had given the authority to mattis to shoot down an incoming missile like that. mattis was going to the national cathedral to pray, to make peace with his god, that has defense secretary, he might have to use nuclear weapons to defend our country. and this, the president's presentation on this is, well, it's instinct. who knows? i mean, come on. i baffle -- i am increasingly baffled the more i hear the casual disconnect, the sense he has of obligation to himself, i guess, i mean, about kim

jong-un. i'm the only one that knows. i mean, come on. i've never heard -- i've interviewed lots of presidents and people that work with them and got notes and transcripts of meetings in the white house -- never heard another president say anything like that. lots of big egos in the presidency. >> right, for sure. >> never heard one say, i -- i'm the only one that knows. >> yeah. and also just, the relationship for, not for negotiating, just for whatever, who knows. bob, stay with us. i want to talk to you more. someone else is about to join us, the other half of the legendary woodward/bernstein duo. much more. that's next. stay with us. mercedes-benz is turning electric... completely on its head.

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you can't accuse woodward of waiting until after the trump presidency to sound alarms. in his 2018 book "fear" he wrote about trump's desire to assassinate presidents. saying let's fing kill them, let's kill the fing lot of them. now woodward points out, in 2020 i ended rage with the following sentence, when his performance as president is taken in its

entirety, i can reach only one conclusion. trump is the wrong man for the job. two years later i realized, i didn't go far enough. trump is an unparalleled danger. we're joined by carl bernstein. bob, this is something i've never heard you say in decades of reading and watching you that one individual should not be president, poses a threat to the presidency. why is donald trump such a unique threat that he's causing you to issue this warning? >> well, first of all, he doesn't understand democracy. the country we have, the united states, was one of the rare countries formed on an idea. and that idea is democracy. he doesn't understand that the january 6th committee has proven that. he does not understand that he's got to take care of the people.

he's got to give them advice, warning, and he didn't do that. carl and i have been talking about this for 50 years, since the nixon case. >> carl, what's your take on bob's work here, obviously, and the warning he's issuing? >> this is a level of transgression by a president of united states that is unique in our history. and the power of listening to trump be negligent with bob on the phone, the level of transgression in every regard. he has no concern that is expressed at any moment for the well being of the united states or democracy or democratic principles. we wrote in the 50th anniversary edition of "all the president's men" a good deal about this characterist of trump. and we quoted george washington

in his farewell address saying the one weak spot in american democracy was if unprincipled men sought to use the presidency for their own ends such as trump has done. when you hear trump on those tapes talk about the pandemic, you are listening to the president of the united states commit negligent homicide of hundred of thousands of people, innocent victims of his cover-up. it's unthinkable. and it's tape after tape after tape. the nixon tapes, very, very powerful. the recordings of richard nixon and his criminality, this is even more so. and every media person needs to listen to these. every reporter who covers the white house, every member of congress with an open mind, listen to a president who wants to be in office again and is totally unfit, unprepared, no

knowledge of what he needs to do and serve the country. >> bob, you've interviewed, covered, written books about presidents since nixon. how is covering donald trump different from other presidents? >> well, when i did the book "rage," there are literally 90 pages where i quote these conversations. they were out there, including all of the ones that we have played. earlier this year, i went back with my wife, elsa walsh, and great assistant, clair mcmullin, and he listened to this. we said, it's different. it thunders at you, and you see in his tone the continual effort, deny, conceal, to the point that i conclude and i think -- if the january 6

committee was investigating the virus and trump on some of these other issues, there would be other witnesses who would tell us things that we don't know. but what we know in trump's voi voice, and carl said -- i mean, it is -- we spend all this time and we spent 50 years kind of redoing, learning new things about nixon. his tapes would come out, and there would be more histories. and that was criminal. we'll never take nixon off the hook. but nixon never plotted against his own people. yes, he did, in the crimes of watergate and the espionage and sabotage campaign. but he -- i've never heard anything where he would say, oh,

well, we're thounot going to wo about, like, the health of the people that he was president of. and this is what trump is doing. >> and carl, after yours and bob's reporting on the trump presidency, watching the capitol attack and the hearings of the january 6 committee, do you think the justice department will indict the former president, carl? >> i have no crystal ball, but what's very clear is that the proof is there already just in terms of what the january 6 committee has developed. and hopefully we have an attorney general and a system in place in a justice department that will allow the indictment of a former president of the united states for his crimes against the united states. no president has ever committed these kinds and level of crimes against the united states. let's just stop and imagine a president who refuses to leave

office, who finds the weak spot, a law that says you have to have the election of the president on january 6 and then sets up litera literally a physical barrier to prevent that from happening. and we watch on real time recordings the members of congress running, hiding, seeking shelter from the president of the united states and his minions determined to overturn the free electoral process. it's time members of congress particularly and people in the justice department look at this evidence, dispassionately, and then there is only one conclusion about donald trump being the president of the united states. what he has committed and where he has promised to go again. >> carl bernstein, bob woodward, thank you so much. and bob woodward's audio book "the trump tapes," will be available tomorrow. be sure to listen.

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to vladimir putin's war in ukraine now, the white house and nato are dismissing russia's claim that ukraine is planning to set off a dirty bomb in its own territory so they can blame it on russia. nato secretary general rejected the russian accusation, stressing that russia must not use it as a pretext for escalation. on friday, bipartisan congressional delegation travelled from united states to ukraine for a secret visit. among the americans, the congressman mike turner and petra turner joins us now live. i swear being here congressman, we appreciate. it what did you speak to zelenskyy about one of his main concern right now heading into the winter? >> right, so all members of the

intelligence committee. and i remember the armed services remember our first task was to look at the coronation and receive assistance on the system and intelligence. to get updates on the status of the conflict. the reports are real that they are making ukraine's making gains against russia in the east and that the projections are before the winter. they could take russia back to its border previous encouraging. and up to crimea. that has resulted in the bridge being attacked. there's this new threat of russia using missiles tried to take out the infrastructure in ukraine. and the iranian drone. which stood next to the power plant and keep. , there's only one that russia has been attempting to hit. that would take up the electrical power in kyiv. and they fit all the buildings around it, but not in it. attempted to try to target. it would present some piece asking for, and the united states is diligently trying to do with nato allies has put

together some sort of air defense that would allow them to respond to this new threat of drones. and these missiles, to try to preserve the structure they go into winter. >> as will miss to do that? it's something nights it can provide. i know there is a biden administration -- is being cautious about what they give to ukraine because they don't want escalate matters further with russia. is there a solution to the problem in your view? >> i think there is. both with former allies i think there are some systems of defense that are too elaborate to be put in the situation. but i think there is an ability to try and assist them but trying to figure that out as what i think our main task, militarily must be. >> what about this idea that russia might explode a dirty bomb and ukraine so as to use it as a pretext to attack ukraine further and a false flag operation.

>> as you know, a number of tactical operations would be harder for them to configure a dirty bomb. but at the same time, the same effect can be achieved with their targeting the nuclear power plant in ukraine that they have shelled, previously. >> the one in zaporizhzhia? ? the >> i.t. thing catastrophic there with both ukraine and we -- as you know, iran's been providing russia with drones. usually largely against ukraine civilian population and presidents case suggested russia could be assisting iran with iran's nuclear program in return. is there intelligence at all that supports this idea that there's a quid pro quo going on? >> you see it with russia, and syria, and iran. you see it now with direct payment between russia and iran. but then also now with a run assisting russia. i think what's important about this is it gives a real

opportunity for israel to change its position, where it has stayed out of this conflict. to say, wait a minute. we now have iran that is engaging it against its allies, our israeli allies, including the united states. they have certainly a long term benefit of all being able to defeat iranian systems. so, i think this is a real opportunity for them to reevaluate the neutrality that they've had entering this conflict. and to help, even in the air defense system that zelenskyy is asking for. >> yeah, funky has been critical of israel for not doing more to help. today, you suggest the republicans and house will resist the large ukraine funding package democrats include with it a host of unrelated spending measures. mccarthy had said something similar. that is nuanced. with that seem to put house republicans are not to agree with mr. mcconnell -- or the senate republicans who

say they need to do more to supply the tools that russia needs to fight aggression. -- the humanitarian economic support. to help this war torn country endured this coming winter. do disagree with mitch mcconnell? >> i think how much does it cost to get $1 to ukraine? actual discussion with zelenskyy raise this issue after the election. he's very much where the last big bill that was passed the house was 40 billion dollars. to send aid billing to ukraine. we've also spent a tremendous amount of humanitarian aid that we sent to the united nations, and sending it to ukraine, and unbelievable market cost. so, i think we have to do, especially since ukraine is being successful. because of weapons are bound and be successful. that this conflict is not likely to wane. we really need to evaluate how do we make the conduit and that dollar presence on ski cheaper. and get that weapon in his hand

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